Posts by Lunatic Faith

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Lack of take up of Advance Directive forms

by billyboy in

as some of you know, i am an elder in a southern england congregation.

the britain branch ( policy letter dec 8th 2007) stopped all hlc brothers giving talks at other congregations and as a result the take-up of the advance directive form (ad) has dropped dramatically.

jws are presenting themselves at hospitals without the form and nhs staff are phoning the hlc to ask that an elder visits to help them compose it while in hospital.. the uk branch is asking hlc members to meet up with bodies of elders so that we can "educate the brothers" (their expression) - we had our meeting a few weeks ago with a couple of the hlc brothers.

Lunatic Faith

For years, every January, they would have a part on the service meeting where they would discuss the stand against blood then hand out the new cards. The book study overseer would insure each and every person in his group had a signed card. And while they had that arrangement, I always carried my card. Some years ago, some time in the last decade, they did away with that arrangement. People who really wanted a card had to fill out an advanced directive which was quite lengthy.

Personally, once they stopped handing them out at meetings it lost its importance to me. If they relied upon the rank and file to be motivated enough to take care of that decision, I knew the vast majority were not going to do it. I didn't. I used to worry about getting in an accident or something and being faced with that decision without an advanced directive. I am glad I don't have to worry about that any more.

I was doing chair massage for the Red Cross last week and have decided to give blood. I think it's the right thing to do.

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Facebook-Jehovah's Witnesses

by Lunatic Faith in

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so, i have been mysteriously added to a facebook page for jw's.

i didn't join and it is supposedly a closed group.

i went to their page and found a dozen others who were wondering how they became a part of a group they never joined.

Lunatic Faith

Okay Jeff. I added you. Have fun! (Is this the unforgivable sin?)

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Facebook-Jehovah's Witnesses

by Lunatic Faith in

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friends

so, i have been mysteriously added to a facebook page for jw's.

i didn't join and it is supposedly a closed group.

i went to their page and found a dozen others who were wondering how they became a part of a group they never joined.

Lunatic Faith

I tried to find you Jeff but there are a lot of Jeff Thomas's and I have never been able to search by state on FB. I looked through about twenty of them when I had to log off because of a chef from Beaverton that keeps stalking me.

Send me a friend request. My name and picture are above--charis

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Facebook-Jehovah's Witnesses

by Lunatic Faith in

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friends

so, i have been mysteriously added to a facebook page for jw's.

i didn't join and it is supposedly a closed group.

i went to their page and found a dozen others who were wondering how they became a part of a group they never joined.

Lunatic Faith

Dillon Rustam AndersonMy mum doesn't want me to go uni, because I'm a jw. Why is that? Btw I'm still going

- Paul Tydings and you call yourself a jw im not by the way but was one time and that attitude wont encoratage anyone .. remember to honour your parents remember.. 54 minutes ago ·
- Charis Branson Get an education, you will never regret it. 52 minutes ago ·
- Paul Tydings ok after rereading what i said i take it back education is great but just dont knock your parents online im sure she has you best interests at heart, so best to chat to her rather than strangers who might steer you wrong remember 1 cor 15:33 ..bad association spoil useful habits.. 49 minutes ago ·
- Steven Hutsell For men who want to provide for their family or future family, then some training is important. Jesus and the apostles had professions that required training. The issue with higher education is that it can derail young people from serving Jehovah. The fact is, you're going to work for the rest of your life... Those 2-4+ years are a drop in the bucket in comparison. I went a bit extreme with two bachelors, a masters, and a Phd, but I always kept faithful. However, school had me so busy that it most definitely kept me from putting forth my best to Jehovah. And to this day, 10 years later, I feel that impacted me, spiritually. 29 minutes ago ·
- Dorito Matusz why are there people who arent actually witnesses on here..? 9 minutes ago · Like

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Tee hee, somebody actually named their kid Dorito.

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Facebook-Jehovah's Witnesses

by Lunatic Faith in

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friends

so, i have been mysteriously added to a facebook page for jw's.

i didn't join and it is supposedly a closed group.

i went to their page and found a dozen others who were wondering how they became a part of a group they never joined.

Lunatic Faith

So, I have been mysteriously added to a facebook page for JW's. I didn't join and it is supposedly a closed group. I went to their page and found a dozen others who were wondering how they became a part of a group they never joined. Strangely enough, they are all witnesses, so it makes me wonder if other members can recommend people. At any rate, I was going to post that I was an evil apostate just to see how fast I would get dropped, but PYRAMID won't let me.

Has this happened to you? One comment on there responded to someones post as to how they got in the group with "Just look at what they say, you know a witness when you see one. Jehovah's spirit surrounds their speech." *snort* I posted the day before yesterday, after a particularly bad day, "FUCK THIS LIFE". Is that the speech Jehovah's spirit is surrounding?

LOL! I just went back to copy that above comment and noticed someone had posted a comment as to whether they should go to university. Somebody on there had already said they shouldn't. So I posted a comment that if they got an education they would never regret it. Maybe I shouldn't get kicked off this page. I can do some serious damage as a wolf in sheeps clothing.

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The GB tightening their grip! Straw to break a camel's back?

by punkofnice in

i post on a couple of forums and read and lurk and all that stuff.. a theme that seems to be gaining momentum is about how the gb are 'tightening their grip' and 'becoming more cultish'.. i don't read the publications anymore and oddly i read extracts of them on the forums.. punk is babbling now.............sorry...................my questions are (sorry if they're a bit long.

sorry if i sound like satan: 'is it really so?

' but then i am a mentally diseased apostate).. 1. are the gb really tightening their grip or is it just the same as it ever was........but..........we just notice the propaganda more now we're out?.

Lunatic Faith

In Anthropology class today we were assigned various religions to read and discuss in class. One girl spoke up about JW's and said how surprised she was that even though this religion had predicted the end again and again, the organization found a way to explain things to its followers in such a way that kept people believing. She said one of the explanations for failed prophecy was that Jesus had come invisibly so only his true followers knew he was present. Everybody in the class kind of shook their heads at such gullibility and the teacher said, "Well, yeah, they have to do that to keep people believing, otherwise they lose all their followers."

It is amazing how stupid it all sounds now, yet I swallowed it hook, line and sinker before.

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The GB tightening their grip! Straw to break a camel's back?

by punkofnice in

i post on a couple of forums and read and lurk and all that stuff.. a theme that seems to be gaining momentum is about how the gb are 'tightening their grip' and 'becoming more cultish'.. i don't read the publications anymore and oddly i read extracts of them on the forums.. punk is babbling now.............sorry...................my questions are (sorry if they're a bit long.

sorry if i sound like satan: 'is it really so?

' but then i am a mentally diseased apostate).. 1. are the gb really tightening their grip or is it just the same as it ever was........but..........we just notice the propaganda more now we're out?.

Lunatic Faith

In the 80s and 90s, I remember hearing the phrase "The Society says" all the time. People have substituted this with "The Faithful Slave says"

I was always getting corrected by my dad for saying "the society". And I know it was because he got harshly corrected by the elders for using a term he had used for 50 years. When he corrected me he always said, "The elders think using the term 'society' sounds like a secretive organization and makes people think JW's are strange." Really? Imagine that.

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Informally witnessing to a witness !

by man in black in

this was pretty neat !.

an elderly lady who lives behind us lost her husband to cancer two years ago.

she has been doing alright, her two grown sons have been helping her out a lot.

Lunatic Faith

The story reminds me of something I heard not too long ago: across the street from a JW friend lives an old man who used to be associated with the dubs but has been inactive for over a decade. He has gotten so old he can no longer get around without a walker and his house has fallen into desrepair. The sister across the street noticed one saturday that a bunch of people were over there fixing his roof, mowing his lawn and raking up leaves and stuff. Come to find out it was the neighborhood people (no jw's present) who had kindly volunteered to help the guy out. The sis across the street said she felt embarrassed that no "brothers" had thought to do it.

And yet JW's go around saying they are the only ones showing neighborly compassion...yeah, if you consider it compassionate to harass people at their doors until they get angry!

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Everything is "Satan" ... Now what?

by roxanesophia in

firstly, i'm a study who initially believed every word of the jw's.

figured "no other religion takes the time and effort to help people understand the bible by publishing the watchtower and the other literature" not realizing that all it does is pick and choose scriptures to suit whatever sentence they'd just written, which can be done using any book, not just the bible.

i felt foolish, after that.. .

Lunatic Faith

I pioneered for four years and had seven bible studies. One of them got baptized (thankfully she has since left). When all the other bible studies ended their studies, I never felt I had wasted my time. There is nothing better for a JW than to sit and study with someone. It is so much better than pounding on doors or scaring people in the parking lots. They count the time, they count the bible study, they gain the admiration of others, they tell of the experience at meetings, assemblies, and conventions, and brag to the CO. There are no draw backs to having a bible study.

I will tell you how my studies all ended: I don't remember any of them really saying "I don't want to study any more". Most of them, appeared, to become too busy. They didn't have time to reschedule. They stopped being "home" when I called. They just kind of faded away. The car group would explain such occurrences by using the illustration from Matthew 13 about the various kinds of soil. "Oh, they got choked out by anxieties of life" or "The burning sun of persecution withered them". I never remember having hard feelings for these people, or thinking they deserved death. I remember feeling fond for every person who had given me the time and opportunity to avoid pounding on doors and to teach. I loved talking about the bible, I hated door-to-door presentations.

I hope this helps. Don't be afraid to ask for what you want.

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How the Watchtower corporation really works (beginning to end)

by Terry in

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in 1925, judge rutherford penned an article of extreme controversy titled the birth of the nation.. the editorial committee (russell had created) would not approve it.. .

ruthford moved swiftly to remove them!

he then hid his massacre cleverly:.

Lunatic Faith

How frustrating! You mentioned the CO's name was Mackey. That name has been around the WTS for awhile. There is a huge family of Mackeys here in Oregon, and it was a Mackey who performed the Marriage ceremony for my parents in Utah in 1959, and a family of Mackey's that started the cong. where PYRAMID is from in Northern California.

Isn't it a small world? *snort*